If, by now, you’ve not heard the latest effort from Manchester’s amazing WU LYF, then you’re missing out. Apparently called ‘SPITTING IT CONCRETE LIKE THE GOLDEN SUN GOD’ (yet another allusion to the ‘concrete gold’ they are constantly referencing), it’s another modern classic in the waiting, showing the band at their very best. In actual fact, it even tops the heights that Heavy Pop scaled, capturing the band in full flight, all yelps and brooding atmosphere. You can listen to it over on their website at http://wulyf.org/.
It’s been months since they burst onto the scene, and have garnered plaudits from around the globe, yet they’re still keeping up this air of mystery, maintaining a purposeful distance from their fans whilst keeping any information about the band to an absolute minimum. Still, there’s always been something slicker than usual about the outfit, the feeling that there’s a little bit too much sheen and measurement from an act that are pretty much unheard of. The videos are the most startling thing – montages cut up with an excellent precision, miles away from their contemporaries efforts in unveiling new songs, which is usually done through uploading a track or two to myspace.
They’ve managed to produce this feeling that everything they make is an event, every slight change or drop of information is news – as blogs such as this one happily enforce. Even their former schoolmates Egyptian Hip Hop, with the mountains of press and hype they’ve had mounting behind them, haven’t achieved the same amount of control the flow of information about them. Every action is measured, thought out and precise, which is exactly why they’ve been such a phenomenon on the internet – who else would’ve dared to sell demo tapes for £50 each (reportedly) or charge £15 for ‘membership’ (including a 12″ vinyl of their work), whilst ignoring the advances of small indies and majors from around the country? In this digital age, where the idea of privacy is one that is rapidly dying, they’ve thrived on people’s desperation for information. Which makes a slip as obvious as the one they’ve committed even more bewildered.
It starts with a simple whois look up, which tells you basic information about the person who registered a website – incredibly standard stuff, something that is available to do legally
and for free on any number of websites. Checking up on their worldunite.org site is the predictable dead end you’d expect – an loop of references to ‘brunettemail.com”, which leads to a relatively sparse domain, as well as suggesting the site is based in New York. It’s when you look up their more traditional wulyf.org site that things become a little bit more interesting. The Whois query reveals that the domain was registered by a company at 77 Dale Street, Manchester, but, crucially, it was done not by a band member, but by a company. The email address supplied is done via the domain four23.net.
When visited, the website reveals about as much information as the band themselves, suggesting that four23 is a ‘creative studio’ that ‘create visual identity, short films… motion graphics and art installations’. It also lists a wide variety of commercial clients, including the likes of Adidas, Reebok, Samsung and Samsung, and it is suggested four23 were consulting in regards to marketing. Of course, world renowned brands are huge leap away from a band that are still only known to a select few thousand, but the delivery and execution of content surrounding the WU LYF project has been done with the same kind of finish that you’d expect from the huge corporations.
There is another link, too – An Outlet. The recently opened Manchester Café where WU LYF have played the majority of their live shows always felt a bizarre choice for one of the country’s most exciting new bands, but it seems there is reason enough behind it. Indeed, four23 are the owners of the café, though this has never been a secret – An Outlet’s website has a link in the bottom corner of it’s ‘information’ page that links back to four23.net/. With so many great places in Manchester to put on a show, there’s still room for shows at small boutique cafés, but WU LYF rarely played anywhere else, having a monthly residency up until recently.
What does it all mean? Well, it still means very little. The obvious assertion is that WU LYF, as well as making some of the best music around at the moment, are having their moves plotted by a marketing company that has been hired by international superbrands for it’s campaigns. That explanation would make a lot of sense, all things considered – there are few PR companies in the world that could pull of this exquisite game of cat and mouse as well as WU LYF supposedly have, especially when the high quality of the videos is factored in as well. However, amongst the conspiracies, there’s a simple possibility – that An Outlet, being one of the few places that band seem to trust, helped them out in registering a wulyf.org so as to stop the hassle of people like myself desperately whois-ing their website. That wouldn’t answer why worldunite.org’s origins when queried using the same methods is so heavily encoded, but it still makes a lot of sense, especially considering the website was only made on ‘15-Feb-2010′.
This link between four23 and WU LYF, it turns out, has been evident for quite some time – as a comment below mentions, Warren Bramley, the founder of four23, is manager of the band. Bramley has a history in the music business as well, having worked for Factory and for In The City: http://iomusic.net/Music-News/2010/04/wu-lyf/ is a more concise analysis of the situation than has ever appeared on this website.
Either way, it seems as if World Unite; Lucifer Youth Foundation are on very good terms with an extremely competent marketing company and are still making some of the best sounds this region has ever given birth to.
World Unite; Lucifer Youth Foundation – Heavy Pop

Warren Bramley (four23) is WU LYF’s manager – or “War God”
this is fucking ridiculous
hahaha you is shit at finding secrets but sweet nonetheless. midi was good. very good.
this consistently makes me WEE MYSELF LAUGHING
just a band just a noise, seen it in the flesh 7 times
whatchu all whiling about babycats?
what do you even want to know?
(aka the lead singer of the band) is Andy Warhol. For somebody who doesn’t care about perceptions, hype, or journalist bullshit, you sure google yourself alot. http://drownedinsound.com/community/boards/music/4258959 remember your ”outing” in this thread? Embarrasing. As good as your music is, you are a huge contradiction of ideologies. ”WE DONT CARE, WE’RE KEEPING QUIET AND CHOOSING THE RIGHT THINGS TO SAY…BUT I GOOGLE MYSELF AND RESPOND ON WEBSITES…).
Music = Brilliant
Ideologies and image= about as well thought out and contrived as they come
jeez louise whats up with the personal attacks? is the lil bitch above the same lonely Mancunian masterbating his prostrate on that dumb fuck drowned in sound page? am i meant to be embarrassed for you?
yu know theres this lil thing in human nature called curiosity, particularly a curiosity to peoples response to your work. and it real eats on me to see dumb fucks like ya self going to so much effort to try and prove a self constructed grievence. i know its a waste of time, but the lil scrappy doo in my head keeps rising to the fight. so look MR im sorry were not into playing ya mundane game, but were doing what were doing how we want to do it, with people we like, if yu or anyone else dont want to be part of it, then don’t. just please stop hiding behind ya computer screen making lil bitch attacks on me and my baby boys.
and me being andy warhol? is this some joke new comparison or referencing the wee wee kid above. because im neither
I agree with Ellery – seriously stop bitching – if you don’t like WU LYF’s music, we don’t give a shit. they are just doing there thing for the people that like it.
As a promoter in manchester – one of the good ones, one that actually gives a shit about the bands he puts on. One that has no interest in making money. I love WU LYF. they are refreshing, and exciting. and fuck me the music is good.
I happen to know the band help out my best friends little brother Sam from time to time. they are good guys.
So what if you don’t like what they are doing. criticism is ok – ART is put out there to be enjoyed and criticised.
but personal attacks are LAME.
Ellery, hello. You come across as a really self important person. All you’ve managed to do is build a wall between people and your music – whether you can see that or not. You’ve restricted your audience, ironically so, to only those who are in tune with blogs and the hype and other things you detest. The only people who really seem to get you a dig your style is other disilusioned alternative kids – which sort of ties in to your ideals about building a cult and your catchphrase ‘for kids with the courage to remain kids’. But what have you gained by limiting your audience? Credentials from the underground community? Are you safeguarding against the fact that mainstream culture might also enjoy your music?
Why do you have to play on peoples curiosity? – surely that implys that all the speculation about your image being a ‘marketing strategy’ is true, doesn’t it?
is it just me or is it only this goon above that sees a wall? other than this “self important” internet geek all i see a lot of people smiling, enjoying themselves, having fun. their audience isnt restricted and i really dont know where your getting your facts from? the whole cult thing is hype, go on their facebook page (FUCKING FACEBOOK) and nearly every thing you say is disproved. maybe do a little bit of research before making such idiotic laments.
p.s. you criticize wu lyf for not putting their faces out, whilst you hide in anonymity and make personal attacks? BIG MAN
alright dan, why so angered? I don’t see many facts in my above comment, mainly questions. the facts that I said;
the cult – the name of the band clearly implys a cult, calling yourself a ‘lucifer youth foundation’. you get a face veil when you buy the vinyl, along with some sort of ‘membership’ and access code and password to a secret website. there is a picture of the band with people wearing the viel, with one of them saluting… the salute is obviously intentional as if it is meaningful. All of this clearly points to the fact the band have created an ideal of a cult? It’s certainly not derived from the hype.
Yes, I realise the band have a facebook page. I’m a fan of it. I’ve read it. they post on it maybe once or twice a month. It’s mostly fans of the band asking questions I seem to recall. Didn’t disprove anything I said. …It did however say they’re signed to ‘warner bros’ which they’re not, and that they are from ‘by babylon’. I guess that’s funny because it’s not true. Ha ha. Seems pretty bitter to me.
I didn’t criticise them for not putting their faces out – I rarely see what a band looks like unill I see them live and I generally don’t know the names of people in bands. It doesn’t bother me at all.
I’m not making a personal attack, as I don’t know any of the band in person.
The point I am making is that it all seems a bit needlesly elite, and since when was that supposed to be the point of music?
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alright dan, why so angered? I don’t see many facts in my above comment, mainly questions. the facts that I said;
the cult – the name of the band clearly implys a cult, calling yourself a ‘lucifer youth foundation’. you get a face veil when you buy the vinyl, along with some sort of ‘membership’ and access code and password to a secret website. there is a picture of the band with people wearing the viel, with one of them saluting… the salute is obviously intentional as if it is meaningful. All of this clearly points to the fact the band have created an ideal of a cult? It’s certainly not derived from the hype.
Yes, I realise the band have a facebook page. I’m a fan of it. I’ve read it. they post on it maybe once or twice a month. It’s mostly fans of the band asking questions I seem to recall. Didn’t disprove anything I said. It did however say they’re signed to ‘warner bros’ which they’re not, and that they are from ‘nu babylon’. funny jokes guysss
I didn’t criticise them for not putting their faces out – I rarely see what a band looks like unill I see them live and I generally don’t know the names of people in bands. It doesn’t bother me at all.
I’m not making a personal attack, as I don’t know any of the band in person.
The point I am making is that it all seems a bit elite, and since when was that supposed to be the point of music?
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nobody appears angry/bitter other than you wuuup, every one else seems to be enjoying themselves, WU LYF definitely appear to be. maybe this is what is pissing you off so much? maybe you should take a holiday? spending so much time trying to prove your jumped up grievances (which in the end are only your opinions, no facts just yet more fiction based on one persons perceptions) all of this is proving you to be a genuine douche bag, repetitive, boring. i hope nobody else bothers to reply to you as you evidently get off far to much on proving your intellect.
and after you’ve done over analyzing their every move, id say they act more as a gang than a cult and none of what ive seen would suggest bitterness or anger just some kids having fun and getting things done.
peace
hey man, lay off me. ya don’t know me. I can’t understand why you’re taking it so personally, unless your mates with the band or somthing? I’m not angry, you’re angry, dan the defence campaign.
Maybe it is more of a gang than a cult, but I don’t get that asthetic either. Can someone explain it to me?
sorry if I havnt bowed to the ways of the lyf, but it’s not clear where they’re coming from, what they’re about. I’d be interested to know what you think the name even means… it’s clearly not meant to be meaningless?
I’d be interested to read the ‘declaration of intent’ that came with the vinyl, if anyone feels like posting it that would be nice. or is that for members only?
don’t get so lairy dan, you’re probably a nice guy. just cos I don’t buy it don’t mean y’all can get so crazy eyed
piece x
Phill – you’re one of the “good” ones?? Lord help us all in that case.
At least I can put my name to things I say..
My record of helping out new musicians speaks for itself – if you disagree, feel free to come talk to me at one of the many events I’m involved with – or chat to me on facebook – Phill Friction
Y’see its very easy to hide behind a gutless statement on a blog.. maybe you’ll find it harder to do it to my face?
i think ‘self important’ is confused.
the kids who come to the gigs are amazing fun.
theres no divide between the band and us
the divide is this here computer screen
theres no ‘disullusioned alternative’ kids either, they’re all just nice people who love the music
and the band are nice guys too
go to a fucking gig and see for yourself
did anyone go to midi??
I saw some PICTURES OF THEIR FACES and it did actually spoilt the mystique for me. So whether it’s a lame tactic or outré brilliance, the anonymity thing works for me.
It’s infinitely preferable to the behaviour of bands that pump out every minuscule morsel of their lives onto twitter (as discussed with Islet, here: http://www.anewbandaday.com/2010/07/interview-islet-out-there-somewhere.html).
Oh, and blog arguments are rubbish. Have a drunken, slurry fight next to the bins out the back like REAL MEN. And bring your girlfriend along to shout at you to leave him, ‘cos it’s not worth it.
Or even here: http://www.anewbandaday.com/2010/07/interview-islet-out-there-somewhere.html
I’ve seen the band 1 time as wu lyf and 1 time as wu lf wu lf.
Anyway, whether you/they like it or not, the whole mystical Internet vibe via non-traditional methods limits their audience. Why limit your audience?
You agree that there is a divide? The computer screen is only a divide becase they have made it that way, it’s a good enough platform for most artists and musicians.
are they a band or a statement? for most people, who havnt seen the rare gigs in Manchester the focus will remain on other things beside the music – is that what the band want? if so… why?
the gigs wern’t rare, they wer once a month, and they wernt secret, the band advertised them, anyone could easily have gone, especially since they wer just £1
they are a band, and an amazing one.
surely their ‘audience’ are the people who go to their gigs and buy their record
they just want people to focus on their music and art, isnt that obvious??
playing a gig once a month is rare by my standards. & I didn’t say they were secretive.
maybe they intended to keep the focus on the music, I hope so. but even if they did – it’s backfired. most people focus on ‘the way they like to do things’ as opposed to the music. countless threads like these, countless blogs all speculating about ‘marketing strategys’ and the like.
this pigeon post is one of the few things I’ve read that talks about the music aswell.
One final unrelated thing… why did wu lyf feel the need to tell the world that their latest song was recorded and produced on garageband? …is that a boast or an excuse?
i would say its a fact. and it doesn’t say it was recorded or produced on garage band, it says it was mixed. you whine about “cynical mystery” and then whine about facts. and the kinds of people who I’ve seen focus on “marketing strategy” are evidently in your club of “hey i’ve got little to no social graces, an opinion, and an internet connection, CHECK ME OUT”
cmon dan, chill out. sorry if I made you angry.
The midi festival video summed it all up quite nicely and provided a nice little metaphor: all the kids screaming along like it means so much to them, but actually they don’t have a clue what the words are.
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A-FUCKING-REED
think y’all missing the point a little bit here.
surely the main point of the article is that a fucking company are hyping up some five minute wonder band.
corporate rock rulez
its 2010 you don’t need to be a big money spining company to have web address and call you self a “creative studio”, its what loads uni media/tech graduates do if they can’t get work.
they stole my sound too
[...] WU LYF來自英國Manchester,全名是的World Unite Lucifer Youth Foundation,有時候也叫作What Up/Loving Young Females,這應該是頭一個讓我希望他們目前為止的神秘姿態只是一種行銷手段的樂團。我相信,隨著音樂網誌介紹的增加,他們的神秘色彩會逐漸退去,更清楚真實的面貌會呈現。(其實已經有很多背景資料被挖掘出來,甚至連網頁註冊資料都有人查過了)。不過我希望掀開的不是這些人長成什麼樣,有些什麼樣的背景,只想知道他們到底是發行過哪些歌曲,以及哪裡弄得到除了手上這張躺了兩個多月,收錄了Heavy Pop/Concrete Gold的12”,之外的任何實體發行 。 我還在想應該如何描述他們的音樂,單單用Lo-Fi或許有點隨便,有些時候甚至也不覺得他們的低傳真是受限於器材,而是加工過後的效果。大多數的時候,歌詞是含糊不清的,沙啞的緩慢嘶吼,那股隱含在迷濛聲音背後的激情,我已經想不起上一個能夠讓我有這樣感覺的樂團是誰了。Guadian拿了很多樂團來形容,Spiritualized、Swans、Egyptian Hip Hop、 Happy Mondays來比擬,但是老實說,我不覺得這些聲音有哪一個可以成功的形容或類比WU LYF的音樂,往往自以為稍微知道他們在搞什麼的時候,又會冒出一首如Such A Sad Puppy Dog這樣,歌曲後半段冒出了2Pac的Shorty Wanna Be A Thug的詭異作品。這種事情,還是直接聽比較快。除了下面的列舉的幾段影片,有興趣的話,Said The Gramophone比較完整地蒐集了他們至今被發現的一些歌曲,雖然品質不見得太好,但是基本上和他們所要傳達的Lo-Fi精神不會有太大的違背。 [...]
What ugly ubricating youth fornicates? Tx
your all here discussing this shit, as am i, so it works, no?
[...] that has proved so useful and controversial for the mysterious Wu Lyf. (Just cast a lazy eye over the glut of indignant and barely literate conjecture on the Pigeon [...]
well havent all these comments managed to dig themselves a ditch and piss all over themselves, just relax enjoy/dislike (whatever your particular perference) the music and life and don’t go on the internet too much cause its really bad for your eyes. if you dnt like something then your supposed to come up with something better instead of complaining because thats boring and at the same time hypocritical if you have never made a song, and if your like it then thats nice isnt it, good